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DarkSpirit · Sep 08, 2008, 05:03 PM // 17:03

I am starting a discussion thread on using 6 heroes against ROX, NOX, and POX. Henchies tend to suck against them and in some places they are lower level so I am not interested in using henchies, even though they can also be made to work.

This is what I used to bring 18 of my PvE characters, in both accounts through the quests. It is a modified version of my 6-heroes Discord build, I wont declare it is optimal, but the build worked for me. Since I can only control 1 account at a time, the other character is semi-passive.

[build prof=R/Me dom=6 exp=10 wil=8 mar=11][Broad Head Arrow][Distracting Shot][Savage Shot][Whirling Defense][Troll Unguent][Resurrection Signet][Cry of Frustration][no skill][/build]

Target lock on NOX or POX.

[build prof=N/Rt blo=10 death=8 sou=8 cha=10][Spoil Victor][Shadow Strike][Lifebane Strike][Putrid Bile][Jaundiced Gaze][Signet of Lost Souls][Warmonger's Weapon][Bloodsong][/build]

[build prof=N/Rt death=10 sou=9 cur=4 res=11][Discord][Mend Body and Soul][Spirit Light][Protective Was Kaolai][Weaken Armor][Rend Enchantments][Signet of Lost Souls][Death Pact Signet][/build]

[build prof=N/Rt death=10 sou=8 res=12][Discord][Weapon of Warding][Spirit Light][Mend Body and Soul][Protective Was Kaolai][Life][Signet of Lost Souls][Death Pact Signet][/build]

[build prof=N/Rt death=10 sou=9 cur=4 res=11][Discord][Enfeebling Blood][Spirit Light][Mend Body and Soul][Protective Was Kaolai][Recovery][Signet of Lost Souls][Death Pact Signet][/build]

[build prof=N/Mo sou=11 cur=6 hea=2 pro=12][Divert Hexes][Remove Hex][Shield of Absorption][Protective Spirit][Aegis][Defile Flesh][Signet of Lost Souls][Resurrection Chant][/build]

payne · Sep 08, 2008, 05:06 PM // 17:06

discord spike yay....

anyway it can be done so easily h/h.....don't need two sets of heroes sorry but they are so bloody easy with h/h regardless of them being in ToA and only lvl15

sorry but they are easy enough without a discord style spike

DarkSpirit · Sep 08, 2008, 05:11 PM // 17:11

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Originally Posted by payne

discord spike yay....

anyway it can be done so easily h/h.....don't need two sets of heroes sorry but they are so bloody easy with h/h regardless of them being in ToA and only lvl15

sorry but they are easy enough without a discord style spike

Since I wanted to bring 2 characters across at one time, I may as well bring 6 heroes.

payne · Sep 08, 2008, 05:17 PM // 17:17

so the point of this thread is?

anyways - for people who want to do it h/h then use MoX as support derv with a few atks...SS or VoR (whatever floats your boat) and nuker ele is fun....you whatever - just take monk mes ele hench all are a doss

discussion on it...its just another thread on how great discord spike is and how much greater it is with two people...yay

phan · Sep 08, 2008, 05:23 PM // 17:23

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Originally Posted by payne

so the point of this thread is?

anyways - for people who want to do it h/h then use MoX as support derv with a few atks...SS or VoR (whatever floats your boat) and nuker ele is fun....you whatever - just take monk mes ele hench all are a doss

discussion on it...its just another thread on how great discord spike is and how much greater it is with two people...yay

Lol ; you sir fail , waisting your time giving un-usefull comments on other people .. He's just trying to help etc ..

Painbringer · Sep 08, 2008, 05:28 PM // 17:28

Crazy yes but I was able to zap the casting golems with Me (mesmer) and Gwen running [Arcane Languor] and a bunch of energy removing skills and me with an [Aneurysm] added to my bar. Interruption is king though. 3 interrupts are a must and you have to micro it sometimes. Balance for me was hench MOX and Livia running SS

payne · Sep 08, 2008, 05:33 PM // 17:33

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Originally Posted by phan

Lol ; you sir fail , waisting your time giving un-usefull comments on other people .. He's just trying to help etc ..

hypocrite? try to not criticise without posting something pointless at the same time....

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Originally Posted by payne

anyways - for people who want to do it h/h then use MoX as support derv with a few atks...SS or VoR (whatever floats your boat) and nuker ele is fun....you whatever - just take monk mes ele hench all are a doss

is it even plausable to think that I actually posted a rough team set-up that anyone could ask for if they don't actually have access to 2 accounts? or were you just wanting to boost your e-peen by insulting someone?

on topic: discord spike is nice but not neccessary for these quests IMO...but a tradition setup of hexer, nuker, healer setup on heroes with random hench does work fine....from what the MAJORITY of people have said...

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Originally Posted by -Lotus-

I dont see why we would need specific hero builds for this. these quests are pretty easy.

OMG - someone with logic yay

-Lotus- · Sep 08, 2008, 05:49 PM // 17:49

I dont see why we would need specific hero builds for this. these quests are pretty easy.

DarkSpirit · Sep 08, 2008, 06:49 PM // 18:49

This thread is for helping people who have problems coming up with a viable 6 heroes or even H/H build to complete the quests and for those who want to post comments to help them out. For others who are not interested in the information or to help out, please move on.

Getting back on topic, I also used MOX as a Ghost Runner all the way back to the Lair when I am done, along with other characters in the team (if you want to help others out). [[Enchanted Haste] is a good skill to use with UA.

gremlin · Sep 08, 2008, 09:02 PM // 21:02

The most annoying thing about these forums and probably others are the smug people who find everything easy.

They simply cannot identify with people who are just not as great as themselves.
Its a stupid position to take every time someone comes here trying to help others and these unspeakable fools pull them down every time.

Ok we all get the point you are great, pvp rules pve is easy all missions are easy solo or with henchmen.
They can be done by you with no skills and with your eyes shut, ok we get it now shut up and let people who actually do have problems and would like a little help get on with it.

You do realise I assume that outside the game is the real world where people are better at some things than you, I hope they all treat you as you treat us here.

ps
I am of the opinion that flaming the flamers is a good thing I encourage more people to kick them and their comments from the forums.
Ignoring them seems to do little.

Turbobusa · Sep 08, 2008, 09:11 PM // 21:11

Well lets see:
ROX: weakness, protective spirit. check
POX: interrupts. check
NOX: interrupts, party heal. check.

should do the trick.

To the above lol, seconded.

FoxBat · Sep 08, 2008, 09:17 PM // 21:17

Replace "interrupts" with "broadhead and some physicals" and you're good. Some of those skills have strong interrupt resistance, and the above is far more efficient than entire bars full of interrupts.

Turbobusa · Sep 08, 2008, 09:20 PM // 21:20

Wand during discord recharge time.

Sharkman · Sep 08, 2008, 10:28 PM // 22:28

[Broad head arrow] works wonders against the two non-physicals, but yes, if you are someone who has two accounts or are working with a buddy, this setup looks like it could be close to optimal.

jackerduud · Sep 09, 2008, 07:31 PM // 19:31

Did Pox earlier, went in without thinking about interrupts and such (K, forgot), played Splinter Barrage with Pain Inventer, Tri-Necro, a healer hench, 2 ele henches, and the warrior.

It was a long and boring fight, like 3-4 Hero/Hench deaths, but eventually grinded it down. I'd figure it had went a lot faster if i was interrupting, and brought specialized builds, but hey, it worked. I'll check out the other bosses tomorrow.

Tyla · Sep 09, 2008, 07:36 PM // 19:36

Is there really any point in Troll Unguent (Which is a terrible skill under most circumstances) and Whirling Defense when you already have a shitload of heals?

Outside of that, what is the kill time for each golem?

DarkSpirit · Sep 09, 2008, 08:58 PM // 20:58

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Is there really any point in Troll Unguent (Which is a terrible skill under most circumstances) and Whirling Defense when you already have a shitload of heals?

Outside of that, what is the kill time for each golem?

Yes I agree Troll is not really necessary, if I can think of a good replacement.

Whirling Defense is more debatable since it grants 75% block and some damage.

I have not timed it, but kill time is still quite long.

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Originally Posted by jackerduud

Did Pox earlier, went in without thinking about interrupts and such (K, forgot), played Splinter Barrage with Pain Inventer, Tri-Necro, a healer hench, 2 ele henches, and the warrior.

It was a long and boring fight, like 3-4 Hero/Hench deaths, but eventually grinded it down. I'd figure it had went a lot faster if i was interrupting, and brought specialized builds, but hey, it worked. I'll check out the other bosses tomorrow.

Interrupts help with POX but you may still be able to complete it without interrupts. I had no deaths with POX, which incidentally performed better than a PUG that I joined just for fun, half the team died and the rest of us ran out of rez.

POX can be devastating to melee.

But you should definitely try to bring interrupts for NOX. NOX is the worst of all 3, and ROX was the easiest. You dont even need an interrupter for ROX.

One of the reasons why NOX is the toughest is because you need to protect the stupid Prince who runs around soaking up as much damage as possible. Some attention has to be focused on protecting/healing him. My interrupter was locked on NOX to interrupt some of his more powerful attacks. Only after the Prince has left, then I could focus all my fire power on NOX and his golems which he conjures very quickly. Having 6 heroes and 2 teams helps in this sense too.

MercenaryKnight · Sep 09, 2008, 09:50 PM // 21:50

I did manage to beat nox without interrupts, ended up with 6 discord necro team and me and my partner with assassin's promise, you move like a dwarf and assassin support. Basically all the heroes would damage and then when the prince ran around we would nuke the golems out while I kept pain inverter being spammed on nox.

Luckily all the golems around= perfect assassin's promise bait because you can throw it on one of those and instantly recast pain inverter on the boss for every kill.

DarkSpirit · Sep 09, 2008, 10:58 PM // 22:58

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Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight

I did manage to beat nox without interrupts, ended up with 6 discord necro team and me and my partner with assassin's promise, you move like a dwarf and assassin support. Basically all the heroes would damage and then when the prince ran around we would nuke the golems out while I kept pain inverter being spammed on nox.

Luckily all the golems around= perfect assassin's promise bait because you can throw it on one of those and instantly recast pain inverter on the boss for every kill.

Yes, my necro used an AP build too on the golems. Even after the Prince has ran out, I still tried to kill the conjured golems from time to time until he goes half life, while the other character targets NOX. If you dont weed out his golems, then his attacks would be even more lethal. Interrupts still help but I only needed 1 main interrupter. Without interrupts, you take a bigger risk and possibly with more DP.

Accursed · Sep 09, 2008, 11:56 PM // 23:56

I was hoping for something original for beating R.O.X., N.O.X., and P.O.X, but I guess I didn't get what I hoped for.

Seriously? People probably have used the 'Discord Spike' crap-o-la already.